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Post by pilight on Jan 19, 2024 21:04:46 GMT -5
What you're overlooking, Clay, is that players on this level are insanely competitive and want to play with/against the best. They don't want to stay for a 5th year to be a woman among girls when there's tougher competition out there waiting. Bueckers may go back for a 4th year, but nobody who's lottery bound will take a 5th year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2024 1:02:53 GMT -5
so eventually someone's gonna have to tell me the rationale behind us drafting someone who, while very talented, projects to play the same position as our current best player – or at least our clear-cut #1 option – fresh off of signing a multiyear extension. unless one thinks Sheldon – career 1.2 ATO but even worse this season – can actually become a PG as a pro. make it make sense to me.
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Post by toad455 on Jan 20, 2024 8:56:55 GMT -5
so eventually someone's gonna have to tell me the rationale behind us drafting someone who, while very talented, projects to play the same position as our current best player – or at least our clear-cut #1 option – fresh off of signing a multiyear extension. unless one thinks Sheldon – career 1.2 ATO but even worse this season – can actually become a PG as a pro. make it make sense to me. i think Sheldon will be a PG in the W. A strong defensive PG. Playing alongside someone like Loyd wouldn't require her to score much in the W.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2024 13:12:32 GMT -5
i guess i will find out how defensive Sheldon really is if she’s the one guarding Caitlin Clark in the Buckeyes-Hawkeyes matchup tomorrow
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2024 14:33:22 GMT -5
i saw no particular PG skills from Jacy Sheldon today in their OT win vs. Iowa. no PG-like passes, no superior ball-handling skills. she brought up the ball & ran the offense today, which had troubles at times against the zone. Sheldon’s a legit three-level scorer, but to be a PG in this league requires a lot. even for true scoring PGs, it ain’t easy.
she finished with 24 pts on 9-16 FG (2-6 3pt), but 3 ast to 3 to’s, which is pretty representative of what she has been doing this season ATO-wise.
she should be able to become a good W player. just not as a PG.
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Post by toad455 on Jan 21, 2024 15:27:37 GMT -5
looked like Celeste Taylor is the default PG for Ohio State. So she's their non-scoring, defensive PG while Sheldon has moved over to SG in her final year. Sheldon probably gets forced into a PG role in the WNBA depending on the team that drafts her. or she'll ride the bench if Dallas takes her.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2024 16:20:54 GMT -5
Taylor and Sheldon trade off running the offense but Taylor was in foul trouble most of today's game, so the PG duties fell mostly onto Sheldon. at best, Sheldon is a natural off-guard who has a little more experience setting up the offense than the average SG. Taylor meanwhile is just not high-level enough offensively at this time to make it in the League imo.
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Post by toad455 on Jan 21, 2024 16:43:48 GMT -5
Yeah, Taylor's draft stock has really dropped. Probably a third round pick now.
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Post by bluedevilsdsufan5 on Jan 21, 2024 17:27:14 GMT -5
Yeah watching the game today, I don’t see Sheldon as a point guard, but definitely belongs in the W.
Watching the South Carolina game rn, and as I’ve been hoping all season- I want PaoPao on the Liberty! She’s no lockdown defender, but she’s similar athletically to Sloot and I love her 3pt shot. She’s a playmaker and fits well offensively with Sab.
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Post by toad455 on Jan 21, 2024 17:54:02 GMT -5
I'd like Paopao was well for New York if Sandy passes on Borlase. And she's a legit three-point threat. I do think Sheldon will be gone by #7. Seems like a player Reeve would like.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2024 18:20:07 GMT -5
Paopao’s one where i have no clue if she turns pro this spring or not – especially if SCar falls short of the title, since she doesn’t yet have one. if i absolutely had to guess right now though, i think she will.
i still believe in Paopao’s PG skills, even though she doesn’t have to run point as much for SCar and has never averaged more than 5 apg in a season. i saw enough of her at Oregon to get a decent feel for her, and i think she has fit into SCar’s system seamlessly. if Cardoso really goes in the Top 3, i’d still reach for Paopao with our #4 Pick, and i don’t see myself going back on that. i think i’d prefer Paopao over Rickea Jackson at this point.
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Post by clayk on Jan 22, 2024 13:57:45 GMT -5
You have to score, and Paopao has not shown she can do that. I would love for her to make it, but Arella Guirantes seems to me to be a far superior player.
As for Sheldon, she goes left every time, yet finishes with her right hand. Clearly not a point guard, and they never even tried to put her on Clark. Limited defensively, then, and limited offensively, it appears, as she can't really create a shot for herself if you take away her left hand.
Cotie McMahon is, according to one eyewitness, about 5-11. She hasn't shown any kind of a jumper, so I can't see her doing much in the W. Could be a beast overseas, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2024 15:48:03 GMT -5
You have to score, and Paopao has not shown she can do that. I would love for her to make it, but Arella Guirantes seems to me to be a far superior player. …where is this comparison coming from? when have Guirantes and Paopao ever been comparable? especially nowadays with Guirantes out of the league. As for Sheldon, she goes left every time, yet finishes with her right hand. Clearly not a point guard, and they never even tried to put her on Clark. Limited defensively, then, and limited offensively, it appears, as she can't really create a shot for herself if you take away her left hand. that doesn’t sound like a player who’s 4th-best overall in this year’s draft to me. even if we did need a SG. Cotie McMahon is, according to one eyewitness, about 5-11. She hasn't shown any kind of a jumper, so I can't see her doing much in the W. Could be a beast overseas, though. she’s still a sophomore. we’ll talk more about her when we know more about her in 2026 perhaps.
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Post by toad455 on Jan 22, 2024 15:50:39 GMT -5
Paopao is a better shooter and defender than Guirantes. And I was very high on Arella prior to the draft. Reminder that everyone had Guirantes as an early first round picks in 2020. GMS and coaches saw something mock draft reporters didn't.
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Post by clayk on Jan 22, 2024 17:18:38 GMT -5
My bad. I misread something ...
Paopao is averaging 12.5 a game and shooting 56% from three. Her A/TO is excellent. Her athleticism and defense are a little more doubtful.
Guirantes, though, is shooting 38.6% from three for Schio in Italy, and will be 27 (prime) this year. Not a PG, though, you're right.
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Post by toad455 on Jan 22, 2024 18:17:08 GMT -5
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Post by toad455 on Jan 22, 2024 21:07:21 GMT -5
Pili has shown tonight vs. UCLA that she can't keep up with an uptempo system. 3-14 FG%, 10 pts & 3 rebs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2024 9:34:37 GMT -5
disappointing that neither Pili nor Osborne (6-17 FG) had stellar games last night on the rare big stage. still, Pili will always have her career-high night against SCar earlier in the season.
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Post by pilight on Jan 23, 2024 18:19:14 GMT -5
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Post by toad455 on Jan 23, 2024 18:33:32 GMT -5
I took that as Boston strongly suggesting that Caitlin Clark needs to enter the draft.
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