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Post by clayk on Jan 16, 2024 11:38:53 GMT -5
Rickea Jackson can't shoot threes and has a 1.9/3.0 A/TO. These are huge red flags.
I like Edwards a lot better, but Sheldon is growing on me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2024 13:43:30 GMT -5
Sheldon as a PG prospect isn’t great: 45 ast to 43 to’s on the season. her career ATO is 1.2, which ain’t much better. Sheldon would be better served as an off-guard prospect considering her ability to drive, shoot, finish, etc. but how many teams want to take a SG in the lottery anyway? hopefully not my Storm, as we have enough true SGs already.
Jackson’s off the court history would give me pause more than what she does on the court. Edwards looks like she’ll be at least a decent W player, but i don’t see her becoming the next Napheesa Collier or the like. still, they all have Top-6 talent but i get hesitant as it relates to the lottery. of course, someone has to get taken earlier than they probably should, with only three obvious lotto picks in Clark, Brink, and Cardoso.
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Post by toad455 on Jan 16, 2024 17:19:43 GMT -5
Rickea Jackson can't shoot threes and has a 1.9/3.0 A/TO. These are huge red flags. I like Edwards a lot better, but Sheldon is growing on me. [br Jackson's stock has dropped a bit for me. At this point, after the big three, it's a crap shot for #4 and up. I'd bet Edwards returns for another year along with Bueckers. No Edwards or Reese and players like Kitley, Jackson and Carter may slide into the first round.
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Post by awhom111 on Jan 16, 2024 23:27:34 GMT -5
Another one of my weird draft situations popped into my mind the other day after seeing her put together a few consecutive solid games. Theoretically speaking, Gemma Potter would be available in this draft. She was the player who was on UCLA's roster in 20-21, but could not travel to the country because school policy was no in-person classes for freshmen so she could not get immigration clearance and ultimately decided to play professionally. At the time, I had Mo check with league sources and their opinion was that the league had no objection to her entry into the 2022 draft and she would be placed in if the union also had no objection, but it was unclear if she would have to request entry or if it was automatic after that. She is another player who was considered a decent prospect before multiple injuries.
In news for Australian prospects who will definitely be drafted, Nyadiew Puoch has signed with the Dandenong Rangers in NBL1 for the upcoming season, which has historically been an indicator that a player would accept being stashed and will not pull a Shyla Heal and insist on showing up after being picked. Izzy Borlase has not been announced by any team, but she will be in Australia's squad for the Olympic qualification. They are missing players, but that does make it seem like she would be in serious consideration if they qualify.
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Post by toad455 on Jan 17, 2024 11:40:27 GMT -5
This draft will be pretty terrible if all of Clark, Brink and Cardoso don't enter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 13:05:19 GMT -5
This draft will be pretty terrible if all of Clark, Brink and Cardoso don't enter. i’d be shocked if even one of those three don’t enter
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Post by toad455 on Jan 17, 2024 14:22:59 GMT -5
This draft will be pretty terrible if all of Clark, Brink and Cardoso don't enter. i’d be shocked if even one of those three don’t enter Cardoso would be the most likely to not enter. But her international career would benefit her by going pro.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 14:47:09 GMT -5
i’d be shocked if even one of those three don’t enter Cardoso would be the most likely to not enter. But her international career would benefit her by going pro. she's back to being a full-time starter after not having started games regularly since her freshman year at Syracuse. and she has already helped SCar win a title. nothing left to accomplish at this level. considering both Cardoso and Brink have won a title, Clark then to me is the "most" likely of those three to return, especially since she's from the state of Iowa and it's doubtful she stays all that close to home as a pro. again though, i'd still be shocked. by the spring, she may simply feel burnt out by how much attention she's received as a collegiate over the years, with this year being the most, and by then the records she [hopefully] will have broken would be enough of accomplishments for her to become a pro on good terms whether she leaves college with a title or not.
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Post by toad455 on Jan 17, 2024 15:08:26 GMT -5
The consensus about Clark is that Iowa isn't good enough to win a championship. Not in 2024 or 2025. So unless Minnesota trades for the #1 pick, she won't get any closer to home than Indiana.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 15:15:34 GMT -5
in theory, i agree that Clark's best chance of winning a title was last season, as Iowa is clearly not as deep this season. that said, Iowa will always have a chance to win if Clark shows up and Iowa gets favorable matchups. they're still a Top-5 team, and especially if they end up with a 1-seed in the Tourney, anything is possible.
but yes, it would take something very unexpected for Minnesota [or Chicago] to end up with a pick high enough to select Clark either this year or next. i'm also not convinced the Fever themselves are a lottery team in 2025. the way she's been hinting on social media and through her soundbites sure makes it seem like she's readying herself to end up in Indiana.
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Post by WBBDaily on Jan 17, 2024 22:07:40 GMT -5
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Post by dreamfan12 on Jan 17, 2024 23:44:24 GMT -5
Cardoso will always have size on her side, but man she’s been incredibly disappointing. I could see her slipping a little. I need her to be more aggressive and more assertive on offense.
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Post by dreamfan12 on Jan 17, 2024 23:45:24 GMT -5
Huge Sheldon fan.. Best two way guard in the upcoming draft. I expect her to go higher than people think she is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 23:57:11 GMT -5
Cardoso will always have size on her side, but man she’s been incredibly disappointing. I could see her slipping a little. I need her to be more aggressive and more assertive on offense. she currently leads the team in ppg, rpg, bpg, fg%, and has an ato greater than 1. she's on the only team yet to lose this season. until the team starts slipping, why does she need to do anything more at this point in the season than she already is? maybe temper your expectations.
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Post by WBBDaily on Jan 18, 2024 5:36:47 GMT -5
Huge Sheldon fan.. Best two way guard in the upcoming draft. I expect her to go higher than people think she is. ...same, no lower than #6 IMO, no matter who declares.
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Post by dreamfan12 on Jan 18, 2024 6:07:05 GMT -5
Cardoso will always have size on her side, but man she’s been incredibly disappointing. I could see her slipping a little. I need her to be more aggressive and more assertive on offense. she currently leads the team in ppg, rpg, bpg, fg%, and has an ato greater than 1. she's on the only team yet to lose this season. until the team starts slipping, why does she need to do anything more at this point in the season than she already is? maybe temper your expectations. Because I said so and that’s my personal opinion.. She hasn’t been that good this year. Yeah I think the Storm should def take her. Zero spacing on the court between her and Ezi. Loyd is gonna love it.
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Post by pilight on Jan 18, 2024 10:44:48 GMT -5
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Post by clayk on Jan 18, 2024 10:50:13 GMT -5
There's more to athletics than championships. As with everything, the process is more important than the result.
If there is no significant financial or other incentive to turn pro, then the experience of practicing, playing and daily living will have a major role in the decision to turn pro or stay in college. (Pilight disagrees, but I think NIL+master's is going to be close to as good as what a top player could earn as a pro.)
So, would you rather:
1) Stay in college another year (been there, done that), have access to charter flights, better facilities, better training and medical care, and live an easier life overall; or
2) Turn pro, live in apartments and hotels, fly commercial, go to Europe in the winter, deal with agents and overseas owners, have worse health care and facilities (in most cases) and experience new things?
And even if winning championships is the goal, is that going to happen in the WNBA? Or in Poland?
If I were in that position, I don't know what I'd choose. It would depend, I guess, on how bored I was with college life and/or my teammates and coaches, and how much I wanted to just play basketball and not think about anything else. I would be excited about living in Europe, but not in the winter. Turkey is the top league, and I'm not sure how much I want to go to Turkey (as opposed to France or Italy, say).
And looking long term, getting a master's degree would be an incentive, as it's a big plus for any job, but especially for college coaching.
It seems about 50-50 to me, and if so, then maybe only two of the four turn pro. And then it's a very thin draft.
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Post by toad455 on Jan 18, 2024 11:53:05 GMT -5
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Post by wbbfan2020 on Jan 19, 2024 12:41:33 GMT -5
i got a snow day here, so without any of the UCONN players, or Reese, Amoore or Van Lith.
1. Indiana - Clark 2. Los Angeles - Brink 3. Phoenix - Cardoso 4. Seattle - Sheldon 5. Dallas - Osborne 6. Washington - R. Jackson 7. Minnesota - Paopao 8. Atlanta - T. Jackson 9. Dallas - N. Puoch 10. Connecticut - Kitley 11. New York - Borlese 12. Los Angeles - Pili
13. Chicago - C. Taylor 14. Seattle - J. Carter 15. Indiana - M. Holmes 16. Las Vegas - D. Fair 17. New York - Ayoka Lee 18. Las Vegas - Yvonne Ejim 19. Minnesota - Erynn Barnum 20. Atlanta - S. Andrews 21. Washington - C. Leger-Walker 22. Connecticut - Deja Kelly 23. New York - Jaz Shelley 24. Las Vegas - Leila Lacan
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