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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2024 14:39:00 GMT -5
Kitley versus Jackson is interesting as Kitley wants to shoot 10-15 foot jumpers that she hits a high rate in college , and Jackson has the size and untapped potential downlow to become a serviceable player in the future. The gap is not huge between the two if their is yet kitley will get drafted higher most likely. 09 is that you 🔍
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Post by toad455 on Feb 5, 2024 14:47:36 GMT -5
Kitley versus Jackson is interesting as Kitley wants to shoot 10-15 foot jumpers that she hits a high rate in college , and Jackson has the size and untapped potential downlow to become a serviceable player in the future. The gap is not huge between the two if their is yet kitley will get drafted higher most likely. Welcome wnba09!!!
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Post by dreamfan12 on Feb 5, 2024 23:12:56 GMT -5
Kitley versus Jackson is interesting as Kitley wants to shoot 10-15 foot jumpers that she hits a high rate in college , and Jackson has the size and untapped potential downlow to become a serviceable player in the future. The gap is not huge between the two if their is yet kitley will get drafted higher most likely. Kitley will end up just like Cunane. I would take both Jackson and Carter over Kitley in a heartbeat.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2024 0:04:15 GMT -5
well fwiw at least Cunane keeps being able to resurface 😅
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Post by toad455 on Feb 6, 2024 18:50:40 GMT -5
Current draft order
FIRST ROUND 1. Indiana 2. Los Angeles 3. Chicago 4. Los Angeles 5. Dallas 6. Washington 7. Minnesota 8. Los Angeles 9. Dallas 10. Connecticut 11. New York 12. Atlanta
SECOND ROUND 13. Chicago 14. Seattle 15. Indiana 16. Las Vegas 17. New York 18. Las Vegas 19. Connecticut 20. Atlanta 21. Washington 22. Connecticut 23. New York 24. Las Vegas
THIRD ROUND 25. Phoenix 26. Seattle 27. Indiana 28. Los Angeles 29. Phoenix 30. Washington 31. Minnesota 32. Atlanta 33. Dallas 34. Connecticut 35. New York 36. Las Vegas
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Post by tpd on Feb 8, 2024 0:14:31 GMT -5
The suspense surrounding the free agency period has mostly dried up, and I guess for that reason I've been thinking about questions that I'd like to pose. Anyway, over on the free agency thread, in connection with a question about which team other than LA, Chicago and Washington is most likely to miss the playoffs, I remarked that Dallas Wings appear to have an obvious weakness at the PG position. The need for an upgrade at PG is certainly not a situation that is unique to Dallas. Other teams drafting high in the draft (LA, Chicago and Washington) also seem to have that same need. However, unlike Dallas, these other teams have multiple needs (other than just at the point) and are also further away on competing for a championship, and for that reason, I expect them to draft the best player available. After Clark and Brink are selected, I'm guessing that Chicago will probably take Cardoso, and that LA will then draft either Rickea Jackson or Aaliyah Edwards, waiting to address the PG situation with the final pick in the first round.
My question is, what does Dallas do with the fifth pick. I suppose that they could draft either Jackson or Edwards, whomever LA does not take. However, with Teaira McCowan, Kalani Brown, Satou Sabally, Natasha Howard, Stephanie Soares, Maddy Siegrist, and even LLS (whom I regard as a G/SF) available in the front court, I really don't see much need for either Edwards or Jackson. Especially if they don't regard the drop off as that great, might they not draft either Georgia Amoore or Te-Hina Paopao in an effort to address their glaring need for an upgrade at the point?
Last year, Dallas used a number of picks to search for outside shooting in an effort to create more spacing for their bigs. Amoore, and especially Paopao, would give them outside shooting in spades, and both players also know how to run an offense. (The only concern that I have with both Amoore and Paopao is on the defensive end, for while I think that Georgia's ability to create separation means that her being only 5.5 inches tall won't affect her ability to score against WNBA players, I suspect that it may well be more of a concern on the other side of the ball.) Anyway, is Dallas a likely landing spot for one of these two players? If not, I'm guessing that, since Dallas doesn't have the cap space to sign both the 5 and the 9 pick while also keeping Soares and LLS, they will probably use the 9th pick as a deferral pick on Charlisse Leger-Walker. At least she might help to address the PG situation in the future.
(Perhaps this is just wishful thinking on my part. Since if Dallas does attempt to upgrade at point with the 5 pick, I think there's a good chance that Sheldon slips to 7.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2024 0:44:38 GMT -5
My question is, what does Dallas do with the fifth pick. I suppose that they could draft either Jackson or Edwards, whomever LA does not take. However, with Teaira McCowan, Kalani Brown, Satou Sabally, Natasha Howard, Stephanie Soares, Maddy Siegrist, and even LLS (whom I regard as a G/SF) available in the front court, I really don't see much need for either Edwards or Jackson. Especially if they don't regard the drop off as that great, might they not draft either Georgia Amoore or Te-Hina Paopao in an effort to address their glaring need for an upgrade at the point? Dallas has Dangerfield, Burton, and Ogunbowale as those who can run point so i don't necessarily see a need for a PG. maybe it changes if they trade or cut Dangerfield or Burton, but as of now, best available could be anyone. what Dallas has needed for multiple years is an older vet who can come in and, not necessarily contribute every night, but be a calming presence/pillar of leadership amongst the group of players. this is a talented group, but still a young and at times a very young- minded group. cohesion & poise, as intangible a couple of qualities as those may be, would potentially really unlock this team's potential. that's the glue player, the x-factor i think Dallas needs. but alas, that request always seems to fall on deaf ears. Last year, Dallas used a number of picks to search for outside shooting in an effort to create more spacing for their bigs. Amoore, and especially Paopao, would give them outside shooting in spades, and both players also know how to run an offense. (The only concern that I have with both Amoore and Paopao is on the defensive end, for while I think that Georgia's ability to create separation means that her being only 5.5 inches tall won't affect her ability to score against WNBA players, I suspect that it may well be more of a concern on the other side of the ball.) Anyway, is Dallas a likely landing spot for one of these two players? If not, I'm guessing that, since Dallas doesn't have the cap space to sign both the 5 and the 9 pick while also keeping Soares and LLS, they will probably use the 9th pick as a deferral pick on Charlisse Leger-Walker. At least she might help to address the PG situation in the future. (Perhaps this is just wishful thinking on my part. Since if Dallas does attempt to upgrade at point with the 5 pick, I think there's a good chance that Sheldon slips to 7.) maybe Dallas goes all-Aussie by taking Amoore at 5 and either Borlase or Puoch as a deferral pick at 9. once again though, Dallas does not need the multiple first-round picks that they have. they end up having at least two first-round picks more years than not these days.
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Post by tpd on Feb 8, 2024 3:20:21 GMT -5
Hi, Stormeo. I regard Arike as more of a SG than a PG. Furthermore, possibly because I root for a team that cut Crystal at the end of training camp, or possibly because I saw her minutes drastically slashed during the playoffs, I don't see CD (or Veronica Burton for that matter) as a long-term solution at the lead guard spot. I really think that a better PG is Dallas' biggest need, at least positionally.
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Post by toad455 on Feb 8, 2024 6:35:31 GMT -5
Whoever Dallas picks will ride the bench. They're fairly deep already and Siegrist is a three point threat and barely played last year. It'll likely be a guard at both picks since Dallas has Soares coming over, too. There's also Lou Lopez Senechal joining them.
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Post by clayk on Feb 8, 2024 10:40:35 GMT -5
Georgia Amoore is a tiny guard who shoots 32% from three. Her best year in college was 40%. Her overall shooting percentage is 41%.
Her A/TO is good but not spectacular, and she's throwing the ball to Elizabeth Kitley, which makes it easy to rack up assists.
I just can't see her being an effective player in the W.
Paopao is bigger and a better shooter, plus her A/TO is better -- though she is surrounded by better players, which makes it easier to get assists.
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Post by tpd on Feb 8, 2024 11:12:34 GMT -5
Hi, Clay. This year, Amoore is averaging 7.6 assists per game against 3.1 turnovers, a ratio of about 2.45 assists for every turnover. Paopao, by way of comparison, is averaging 4.0 assists per game against 1.6 turnovers, a ratio of 2.5 assists for every turnover. I don't see a big difference between a player that distributes 2.45 assists for every turnover and one who distributes 2.5 assists for every turnover, especially when you consider the significantly greater number of assists thrown by Amoore.
I agree that Paopao is a better shooter. The other big difference that I see between them is that, while Paopao may be able to improve her defense, I think that Georgia's height will always pose a challenge for her on the defensive side of the ball. That's why I would rate Paopao higher, but there are plenty of mock drafts that disagree.
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Post by wnba09 on Feb 8, 2024 17:02:52 GMT -5
Kitley versus Jackson is interesting as Kitley wants to shoot 10-15 foot jumpers that she hits a high rate in college , and Jackson has the size and untapped potential downlow to become a serviceable player in the future. The gap is not huge between the two if their is yet kitley will get drafted higher most likely. 09 is that you 🔍 Its meeeeee Hey stormeoooo
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Post by wnba09 on Feb 8, 2024 17:03:19 GMT -5
Kitley versus Jackson is interesting as Kitley wants to shoot 10-15 foot jumpers that she hits a high rate in college , and Jackson has the size and untapped potential downlow to become a serviceable player in the future. The gap is not huge between the two if their is yet kitley will get drafted higher most likely. Welcome wnba09 !!! Thanks toaddddd i finally got around to reading inboxes 9 months later ! Thanks for inviting me here !!
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Post by wnba09 on Feb 8, 2024 17:08:09 GMT -5
My question is, what does Dallas do with the fifth pick. I suppose that they could draft either Jackson or Edwards, whomever LA does not take. However, with Teaira McCowan, Kalani Brown, Satou Sabally, Natasha Howard, Stephanie Soares, Maddy Siegrist, and even LLS (whom I regard as a G/SF) available in the front court, I really don't see much need for either Edwards or Jackson. Especially if they don't regard the drop off as that great, might they not draft either Georgia Amoore or Te-Hina Paopao in an effort to address their glaring need for an upgrade at the point? Dallas has Dangerfield, Burton, and Ogunbowale as those who can run point so i don't necessarily see a need for a PG. maybe it changes if they trade or cut Dangerfield or Burton, but as of now, best available could be anyone. what Dallas has needed for multiple years is an older vet who can come in and, not necessarily contribute every night, but be a calming presence/pillar of leadership amongst the group of players. this is a talented group, but still a young and at times a very young- minded group. cohesion & poise, as intangible a couple of qualities as those may be, would potentially really unlock this team's potential. that's the glue player, the x-factor i think Dallas needs. but alas, that request always seems to fall on deaf ears. Last year, Dallas used a number of picks to search for outside shooting in an effort to create more spacing for their bigs. Amoore, and especially Paopao, would give them outside shooting in spades, and both players also know how to run an offense. (The only concern that I have with both Amoore and Paopao is on the defensive end, for while I think that Georgia's ability to create separation means that her being only 5.5 inches tall won't affect her ability to score against WNBA players, I suspect that it may well be more of a concern on the other side of the ball.) Anyway, is Dallas a likely landing spot for one of these two players? If not, I'm guessing that, since Dallas doesn't have the cap space to sign both the 5 and the 9 pick while also keeping Soares and LLS, they will probably use the 9th pick as a deferral pick on Charlisse Leger-Walker. At least she might help to address the PG situation in the future. (Perhaps this is just wishful thinking on my part. Since if Dallas does attempt to upgrade at point with the 5 pick, I think there's a good chance that Sheldon slips to 7.) maybe Dallas goes all-Aussie by taking Amoore at 5 and either Borlase or Puoch as a deferral pick at 9. once again though, Dallas does not need the multiple first-round picks that they have. they end up having at least two first-round picks more years than not these days. I want Sheldon but im not convinced the powers that be are all that convinced .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2024 0:31:21 GMT -5
Sheldon would make sense. i wonder if Dallas is pretty much done making big moves, or if they wait til around Draft szn to make their next/last move, like they did a year or two ago.
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Post by dreamfan12 on Feb 10, 2024 4:33:20 GMT -5
Sheldon would make sense. i wonder if Dallas is pretty much done making big moves, or if they wait til around Draft szn to make their next/last move, like they did a year or two ago. I want better for Jacy Sheldon, heck for any good player in the draft . They don’t deserve to suffer in Dallas. They should be banned from having draft picks for a while.
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Post by WNBA 09 on Feb 12, 2024 15:19:17 GMT -5
Sheldon would make sense. i wonder if Dallas is pretty much done making big moves, or if they wait til around Draft szn to make their next/last move, like they did a year or two ago. I want better for Jacy Sheldon, heck for any good player in the draft . They don’t deserve to suffer in Dallas. They should be banned from having draft picks for a while. Oh wow lol...ummm ok.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2024 15:29:23 GMT -5
Sheldon would make sense. i wonder if Dallas is pretty much done making big moves, or if they wait til around Draft szn to make their next/last move, like they did a year or two ago. and now that i’ve done the roster maps, it does seem like Dallas could use a backup wing, especially one who’s better defensively than LLS. if Sheldon’s gone by 5, Dallas should reach a little and take Osborne. both are two-way players who can still hit open 3s. otherwise, i don’t see any athletic true SF-types worth taking at all at 5. too bad we never got to see what DeShields could’ve given the Wings. that’s sort of the player profile whom they could use off the bench. (although one a little more consistent defensively than DeShields, generally speaking.)
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Post by toad455 on Feb 15, 2024 21:24:05 GMT -5
Clark broke the scoring record tonight. I don't think Iowa stands much of a shot getting a title this year or next year. Clark staying a fifth year would make the record unbreakable. So what does Clark do?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2024 1:58:05 GMT -5
Clark broke the scoring record tonight. I don't think Iowa stands much of a shot getting a title this year or next year. Clark staying a fifth year would make the record unbreakable. So what does Clark do? what should she do? turn pro. let the records she's about to set in stone stay even remotely breakable. (i'm looking at you who's got next, JuJu Watkins.) not to say it'd be "bad for women's basketball" if she stayed a 5th year. what will she do? turn pro. while it must feel awesome accomplishing all of this in her home state, it must also feel incredibly draining at this point. she definitely gets more attention now than Kelsey Plum got at Washington in her final season, and i'm not exaggerating when i say that it almost killed Kelsey. (not to say how Kelsey's hardwired and how Caitlin's hardwired are comparable, cuz they are two different people – but surely both would agree that it all is a lot.) only thing Clark would come back for is a title if she doesn't get it this year... though that would mean another season which would come with a continued microscope on her – a microscope that i can't say really exists on the W's level – even as there wouldn't be any more records to chase at that point. also, maybe she's just ready for a step up, a challenge, from the college level. at the end of the day, these ultra-talented athletes are equally ultra-competitive. it could be that she's sort of getting bored, or will get bored once she's done breaking her records, and wants to broaden her horizons.
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