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Post by WBBDaily on Jul 30, 2024 12:30:22 GMT -5
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Post by WBBDaily on Jul 30, 2024 12:44:01 GMT -5
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Post by clayk on Jul 31, 2024 11:55:31 GMT -5
This is just a badly constructed team, in part because of the arcane 3x3 qualification rules.
Van Lith is the only shooter but she can't guard anyone. And without a shooter, Hamby and Howard are a lot less effective.
And I don't even know who Cierra Burdick is.
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Post by toad455 on Jul 31, 2024 12:37:58 GMT -5
Yeah, HVL and Burdick shouldn't be on this team. Imagine Laney-Hamilton and Clark on this team instead.
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Post by bluedevilsdsufan5 on Jul 31, 2024 14:57:54 GMT -5
Yeah, just watched USA lose to Azerbaijan and Tiffany Hayes…..yikes lol
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Post by toad455 on Jul 31, 2024 15:08:37 GMT -5
This team has practiced together for a week only. No wonder they look like garbage.
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Post by artbest23 on Jul 31, 2024 18:21:57 GMT -5
I don't even know who Cierra Burdick is. Burdick played for Tenn,and bounced around the W without much success, but she has played on multiple gold medal winning World Cup 3x3 teams for USA basketball. She's not the problem. She's the least spectacular but the the most reliable and consistent member of this team. Howard and Van Lith have both been disasters. I can't figure out how this team was chosen. USA basketball used to get real players to play the big 3x3 tournaments. Diggins, Ionescu, Jewell Lloyd, Chiney Ogwumike, Tiffany Mitchell all played on World Cup 3x3 teams, for example. Last Olympics they had Young, Plum, Dolson and Alisha Gray, and won gold. They couldn't build a better team than this mess this time?
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Post by toad455 on Jul 31, 2024 18:53:03 GMT -5
I don't even know who Cierra Burdick is. Burdick played for Tenn,and bounced around the W without much success, but she has played on multiple gold medal winning World Cup 3x3 teams for USA basketball. She's not the problem. She's the least spectacular but the the most reliable and consistent member of this team. Howard and Van Lith have both been disasters. I can't figure out how this team was chosen. USA basketball used to get real players to play the big 3x3 tournaments. Diggins, Ionescu, Jewell Lloyd, Chiney Ogwumike, Tiffany Mitchell all played on World Cup 3x3 teams, for example. Last Olympics they had Young, Plum, Dolson and Alisha Gray, and won gold. They couldn't build a better team than this mess this time? Since the last Olympics, the options on 3x3 ball were limited. The 2023 World Cup had Burdick, Van Lith, Brink & Linnae Harper (won Gold). I forgot who had the list up of eligible players to be on this Olympic roster, but it was nothing pretty
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Post by wbbfan2020 on Jul 31, 2024 19:07:58 GMT -5
the system required by FIBA needs to go away. Let each federation pick the four best players. This team could have been Clark, Arike, Hamby, Allisha Gray.
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Post by bluedevilsdsufan5 on Jul 31, 2024 19:25:09 GMT -5
Ohhhhhh imagine Arike cooking in 3x3 🔥🔥🔥
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Post by WBBDaily on Jul 31, 2024 19:31:03 GMT -5
Chennedy Carter was made for 3x3!
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Post by awhom111 on Jul 31, 2024 21:52:25 GMT -5
I do wonder about USA Basketball's plan for this roster. In the last cycle, they did a massive amount of rankings manipulation to get the players that they wanted at the end. They might have gotten a little complacent after winning the last gold medal. There are no gimmes in this field unlike Mongolia in Tokyo so they could win the rest of their games or lose enough to get eliminated. Thursday is a two-game day and Australia and Spain have pretty experienced crews.
The other 0-2 team has to be sweating though. France's federation pulled out prospective players from their entire club seasons and paid the salaries that they would have earned so that they could specifically train for this all year. They did not look good in their top-level competitions leading up to the Olympics and nothing has changed.
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Post by toad455 on Aug 1, 2024 7:02:47 GMT -5
USA now 0-3
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Post by artbest23 on Aug 1, 2024 15:23:58 GMT -5
I do wonder about USA Basketball's plan for this roster. In the last cycle, they did a massive amount of rankings manipulation to get the players that they wanted at the end. They might have gotten a little complacent after winning the last gold medal.
I do wonder about USA Basketball's plan for this roster. In the last cycle, they did a massive amount of rankings manipulation to get the players that they wanted at the end.
I seem to recall that once they had a big tournament purportedly to select a team to represent the US in the Olympics or World Cup (don't recall which) but the real purpose was to generate enough playing points for players to qualify, or so I understood it. I'm pretty sure they'd find it easy to get enough excellent pro and college players to take a free trip to Colorado for a weekend of fun basketball to make sure the players they want are eligible. But USA Basketball is, as usual, way behind the times, is focused on getting the insiders and cronies more medals, and doesn't care a bit about 3x3 on the men's or women's side. We should be winning both golds, but have no chance.
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Post by WBBDaily on Aug 1, 2024 15:27:25 GMT -5
Good to see ya' Art, don't be a stranger!
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Post by toad455 on Aug 1, 2024 15:42:04 GMT -5
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Post by libertyfan2020 on Aug 1, 2024 19:25:21 GMT -5
It's only 8 teams participating and 6 go through to the next round?
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Post by artbest23 on Aug 1, 2024 20:09:19 GMT -5
It's only 8 teams participating and 6 go through to the next round? I believe that's correct. US is currently one of three teams tied for last at 1-3, and has already lost to one of the other two. Best hope is to beat France (the 3rd 1-3 team) and have the chips fall just right to sneak into the elimination bracket. The men are even worse off, currently 0-4. The round robin just eliminates the 2 worst teams. Pretty shameful the US fielded what might be one of the two worst. I would have thought they could have sold the really cool experience of Young and Plum and Gray last time as Olympic Gold Medalists to motivate others to play in a couple of FIBA sanctioned tournaments in order to attain eligibility. Wouldn't some players like Chennedy Carter, Monique Billings, Kayla McBride and Maddy Siegrist for example make for a nice, versatile team and maybe jump at their only real chance to play and earn Gold in the Olympics? That foursome would certainly kick the current squad's ass.
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Post by awhom111 on Aug 1, 2024 20:58:41 GMT -5
It's only 8 teams participating and 6 go through to the next round? I believe that's correct. US is currently one of three teams tied for last at 1-3, and has already lost to one of the other two. Best hope is to beat France (the 3rd 1-3 team) and have the chips fall just right to sneak into the elimination bracket. The men are even worse off, currently 0-4. The round robin just eliminates the 2 worst teams. Pretty shameful the US fielded what might be one of the two worst. I would have thought they could have sold the really cool experience of Young and Plum and Gray last time as Olympic Gold Medalists to motivate others to play in a couple of FIBA sanctioned tournaments in order to attain eligibility. Wouldn't some players like Chennedy Carter, Monique Billings, Kayla McBride and Maddy Siegrist for example make for a nice, versatile team and maybe jump at their only real chance to play and earn Gold in the Olympics? That foursome would certainly kick the current squad's ass. I can't fault McBride since she has played so much for Fenerbahce. Carter was also focused on being able to make money, but I wonder if she got any interest from 3x3 club teams for the summer, which do exist in a few countries. Billings was too busy taking money in Russia, which the league's media just does not talk about. Siegrist actually has fairly recent experience, but who knows about interest in taking up more of the offseason for it.
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Post by artbest23 on Aug 1, 2024 22:44:21 GMT -5
I believe that's correct. US is currently one of three teams tied for last at 1-3, and has already lost to one of the other two. Best hope is to beat France (the 3rd 1-3 team) and have the chips fall just right to sneak into the elimination bracket. The men are even worse off, currently 0-4. The round robin just eliminates the 2 worst teams. Pretty shameful the US fielded what might be one of the two worst. I would have thought they could have sold the really cool experience of Young and Plum and Gray last time as Olympic Gold Medalists to motivate others to play in a couple of FIBA sanctioned tournaments in order to attain eligibility. Wouldn't some players like Chennedy Carter, Monique Billings, Kayla McBride and Maddy Siegrist for example make for a nice, versatile team and maybe jump at their only real chance to play and earn Gold in the Olympics? That foursome would certainly kick the current squad's ass. I can't fault McBride since she has played so much for Fenerbahce. Carter was also focused on being able to make money, but I wonder if she got any interest from 3x3 club teams for the summer, which do exist in a few countries. Billings was too busy taking money in Russia, which the league's media just does not talk about. Siegrist actually has fairly recent experience, but who knows about interest in taking up more of the offseason for it. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think you may be overestimating the time investment required. My recollection is that a couple of weekends of playing in USAB sponsored tournaments was enough. Those NBA players on previous WC or Olympic teams certainly didn't spend entire summers playing 3x3.
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