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Post by toad455 on Apr 2, 2023 18:45:28 GMT -5
I lost count of how many times Iowa (and Virginia Tech) had the ball inside and Reese simply stood there. Even after the shot. She's strong on certain things, but I think she'll get cooked in her rookie year in the W.
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Post by dreamfan12 on Apr 3, 2023 8:45:31 GMT -5
I lost count of how many times Iowa (and Virginia Tech) had the ball inside and Reese simply stood there. Even after the shot. She's strong on certain things, but I think she'll get cooked in her rookie year in the W. She gets a lot of rebounds because she kisses half of her shots. She’s gonna have to expand her offensive game as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 8:00:16 GMT -5
I think she'll develop very nicely playing for Kim Mulkey for 2 more years. As sketchy as her fundamentals are, Reese has TALENT and finds a way to dominate her matchups. I do think she'll have a nice pro career.
(no I don't like her very much and don't want her on any team that I root for lol)
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Post by toad455 on Apr 4, 2023 8:11:48 GMT -5
With Boston going pro, is Reese now the best college post player?
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Post by sp on Apr 4, 2023 9:16:49 GMT -5
With Boston going pro, is Reese now the best college post player? In terms of college numbers and performances, yes. I still like Cameron Brink better as a pro prospect.
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Post by sp on Apr 4, 2023 9:32:53 GMT -5
I think she'll develop very nicely playing for Kim Mulkey for 2 more years. As sketchy as her fundamentals are, Reese has TALENT and finds a way to dominate her matchups. I do think she'll have a nice pro career. Mulkey's record in developing pros is not good IMO. I think Griner was inevitable regardless (and lots of skill development happened after college). Young-Malcolm was an early success but slim pickings after that. Kalani Brown and Lauren Cox were two recent top prospects who have missed the mark a bit and it's been reported that Nalyssa Smith's and Queen Egbo's pro prospects benefited big time from their one season under Nicki Collen. I still think Reese will be a good WNBA player but no thanks to Mulkey.
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Post by dreamfan12 on Apr 4, 2023 10:20:13 GMT -5
With Boston going pro, is Reese now the best college post player? No. Brink is the better prospect. She has a more diverse offensive game as well. Just needs to learn how to stay out do foul trouble. Reese isn’t bullying anyone in the wnba. Certainly not A’ja and Stewie
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 16:30:03 GMT -5
I think she'll develop very nicely playing for Kim Mulkey for 2 more years. As sketchy as her fundamentals are, Reese has TALENT and finds a way to dominate her matchups. I do think she'll have a nice pro career. Mulkey's record in developing pros is not good IMO. I think Griner was inevitable regardless (and lots of skill development happened after college). Young-Malcolm was an early success but slim pickings after that. Kalani Brown and Lauren Cox were two recent top prospects who have missed the mark a bit and it's been reported that Nalyssa Smith's and Queen Egbo's pro prospects benefited big time from their one season under Nicki Collen. I still think Reese will be a good WNBA player but no thanks to Mulkey. Idk. I hate Mulkey and it feels dirty to "defend" her, but I'm not sure I agree with you. Kalani Brown is *slow* and has been injured repeatedly since going pro. That had nothing to do with Mulkey. GM's were very high on Cox but she has also been injured a lot and been out of shape. Baylor has not been elite under Collen. Did she really do that much for Smith and Egbo??? Nalyssa Smith's numbers are an utter mystery to me. Her last year at Baylor she shot 23% from 3 (bad!) and 80% from FT. (good!) Months later in the WNBA, she's shooting 38% from 3 (good!) and 61% from FT. (terrible!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 17:04:09 GMT -5
i think i side with @undersized on this one. even UConn talents nowadays can flame out. Mulkey at least helped get her Baylor players picked in the first round – after that, it’s outta the hands of their college coach and into the hands of their W coach IMO. the Fever did a shit job at sticking with Cox, but they seem to be more committed to Smith & Egbo. Brown has been particularly injury-prone in recent years. Cox has been healthier and playing better since the Fever first cut her, actually.
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Post by sp on Apr 4, 2023 17:39:50 GMT -5
Lauren Cox was the consensus #1 recruit out of high school so clearly people thought she was WNBA quality. I feel comfortable in saying that she was underdeveloped and while Mulkey is of course not entirely responsible, it doesn't help her reputation in this department either. Kalani Brown - compared to Teaira McCowan who is very similar, yeah I think she looks underdeveloped. Brown was ranked higher out of high school (at least for ESPN). Of course there are other factors involved here but once again, I don't think Mulkey has helped. There may be a trend here. re: NaLyssa Smith and Queen Egbo, I was trying to find the article about Mulkey, Collen, them and the WNBA and while I didn't find the specific one I was looking for, I found this which says basically the same thing about Mulkey and Collen's systems. Consider it FWIW baylorlariat.com/2022/03/15/queen-of-the-court-egbos-final-reign/Besides Griner and Young-Malcolm, who from Baylor has turned out in the pros? Mulkey is a great college coach, but she doesn't develop players for the pros. I note that nobody has provided any other examples of Mulkey developing anybody. There is the great example of DiDi Richards and her total lack of shooting.
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Post by dreamfan12 on Apr 4, 2023 17:45:00 GMT -5
Mulkey's record in developing pros is not good IMO. I think Griner was inevitable regardless (and lots of skill development happened after college). Young-Malcolm was an early success but slim pickings after that. Kalani Brown and Lauren Cox were two recent top prospects who have missed the mark a bit and it's been reported that Nalyssa Smith's and Queen Egbo's pro prospects benefited big time from their one season under Nicki Collen. I still think Reese will be a good WNBA player but no thanks to Mulkey. Idk. I hate Mulkey and it feels dirty to "defend" her, but I'm not sure I agree with you. Kalani Brown is *slow* and has been injured repeatedly since going pro. That had nothing to do with Mulkey. GM's were very high on Cox but she has also been injured a lot and been out of shape. Baylor has not been elite under Collen. Did she really do that much for Smith and Egbo??? Nalyssa Smith's numbers are an utter mystery to me. Her last year at Baylor she shot 23% from 3 (bad!) and 80% from FT. (good!) Months later in the WNBA, she's shooting 38% from 3 (good!) and 61% from FT. (terrible!) Kalani Brown’s main problem is her staying in playing shape.
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Post by toad455 on Apr 4, 2023 17:47:55 GMT -5
I still think Brown can be a decent back-up post. Her dropping 20-30 lbs would help, but she also needs to keep clear of being injured. She was doing fairly well in Israel this winter.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 21:12:14 GMT -5
Just throwing names out there--- are we counting DiJonai Carrington as a Mulkey success? (yes?) Odyssey Sims? (yes?) Te'a Cooper? (no?)
Obviously some of these players only spent 1 year there.
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Post by sp on Apr 4, 2023 22:10:35 GMT -5
Sims as a top 5 high school recruit and a #2 pick as a WNBA developmental success? She had an All Star season at least but it's arguable if she reached her potential.
Carrington spent a grad transfer year at Baylor and played three years at Stanford so partially.
Kristy Wallace potentially, but that one needs a year or two for confirmation.
Even with Sims and these others, that's a short list for somebody who won three championships at a single school over 15 years. For comparison, Maryland's list looks better and that's even disregarding their mass of transfers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 23:16:58 GMT -5
it’s a bit ironic how this argument about Mulkey as a good/bad developer of talent goes all the way back to Angel Reese, because she proudly calls herself as a sophomore – even if this is her 3rd year in college, which is its own point of discourse – and that would imply that she’s planning on sticking around for a “senior” season (perhaps under her own definition) which would happen in 2024-25. as a result, she wouldn’t even turn pro in 2024 and be part of this draft class lmfao.
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Post by toad455 on Apr 5, 2023 14:45:30 GMT -5
Plus Osborne
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 15:08:36 GMT -5
Putting age eligible juniors on that list is misleading, tbh.
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Post by dreamfan12 on Apr 5, 2023 17:06:40 GMT -5
Cameron Brink don’t count lol. She was never coming out this year regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 17:23:26 GMT -5
Cameron Brink don’t count lol. She was never coming out this year regardless. was she or was she not eligible and still returned anyway? of course she counts. Mackenzie Holmes is also listed on there, and she’s been saying she’d exhaust all her eligibility since last spring. all these players meet the age requirement. (unless we can look up which players graduated, we don’t know which of the fourth-year players listed on there have their degrees & which ones don’t.)
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Post by sp on Apr 8, 2023 21:54:17 GMT -5
Very nice Nike Hoop Summit from Nyadiew Puoch - 16 points (5/6 FG) and 4 blocks. I think she's certainly on the radar for WNBA scouts now - her defensive potential is immense and she had some nice offensive moments in the game too. To provide that kind of rim protection as a wing is pretty impressive.
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