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Post by clayk on Mar 4, 2024 11:49:03 GMT -5
There are always adjustments to be made, and Clark will make most of them. As long as she shoots well from distance, she'll be an effective player. If she can do more than that, she could be even better -- I really like her passing.
I haven't found her to be unlikable. She's not cuddly or cute by any means, but she seems no different than a lot of players who work the refs to get calls. We'll see how she acts in the W ...
I agree about Kitley and Prince. Occasionally a player like that -- a slow post who dominated with her size -- makes it work in the WNBA. Most of the time, they don't.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2024 16:55:36 GMT -5
the consensus lottery picks (Clark, Brink, & Cardoso this year) should end up being fine regardless of where they go, and everyone else’s chances at making it will largely depend on team fit more so than individual skills. same as every year, for the most part.
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Post by lynxmania on Mar 4, 2024 19:40:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2024 19:47:39 GMT -5
🗣️boooooooo
watch her go on a midseason shooting slump next season like she’d been prone to doing [albeit] at Oregon and it tanks her draft stock smh.
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Post by toad455 on Mar 4, 2024 19:54:17 GMT -5
Damn
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Post by awhom111 on Mar 4, 2024 22:14:11 GMT -5
I get the idea of Lacan being popular as a tall point guard who is athletic and can score. It is just hard to evaluate a 19 year old playing point guard full time for the first time and doing so in the deepest league outside of the WNBA even before trying to figure out her availability. At least Carla Leite has actually been quoted with interest in actually trying the WNBA.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2024 22:40:02 GMT -5
I get the idea of Lacan being popular as a tall point guard who is athletic and can score. It is just hard to evaluate a 19 year old playing point guard full time for the first time and doing so in the deepest league outside of the WNBA even before trying to figure out her availability. At least Carla Leite has actually been quoted with interest in actually trying the WNBA. i am hoping Matilde Villa shows interest in coming Stateside at some point, considering her twin sister Elly who’s already here has been a big presence for Wazzu the whole season but especially in CLW’s absence. idk if one sister was ever considered better than the other, but so long as they’re at least comparable, Matilde might even be ready to make a splash in America by the summer after this coming one. that they both went in two different basketball-related directions as it relates to their respective career paths feels like it’s part of some grand science experiment. it’s so interesting to me now, let alone looking back on it once we see how things will have shaped up maybe as early as a mere 3-5 years from now.
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Post by dreamfan12 on Mar 4, 2024 23:13:42 GMT -5
There are always adjustments to be made, and Clark will make most of them. As long as she shoots well from distance, she'll be an effective player. If she can do more than that, she could be even better -- I really like her passing. I haven't found her to be unlikable. She's not cuddly or cute by any means, but she seems no different than a lot of players who work the refs to get calls. We'll see how she acts in the W ... I agree about Kitley and Prince. Occasionally a player like that -- a slow post who dominated with her size -- makes it work in the WNBA. Most of the time, they don't. She won’t act the same because most of the players in the wnba aren’t going to let her get away with it. They will push back. Also every young star guard that has come into the league lately has had to adjust. Caitlin won’t be any different. She’ll be just like Sabrina and Kelsey Plum.
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Post by awhom111 on Mar 5, 2024 22:50:13 GMT -5
I get the idea of Lacan being popular as a tall point guard who is athletic and can score. It is just hard to evaluate a 19 year old playing point guard full time for the first time and doing so in the deepest league outside of the WNBA even before trying to figure out her availability. At least Carla Leite has actually been quoted with interest in actually trying the WNBA. i am hoping Matilde Villa shows interest in coming Stateside at some point, considering her twin sister Elly who’s already here has been a big presence for Wazzu the whole season but especially in CLW’s absence. idk if one sister was ever considered better than the other, but so long as they’re at least comparable, Matilde might even be ready to make a splash in America by the summer after this coming one. that they both went in two different basketball-related directions as it relates to their respective career paths feels like it’s part of some grand science experiment. it’s so interesting to me now, let alone looking back on it once we see how things will have shaped up maybe as early as a mere 3-5 years from now. I hope so too as she has always been fun to watch. Matilde has always been considered better, in large part due to being the more natural point guard given that both are more point guard height. Matilde was in the rotation at their club a full season sooner and was averaging 15 points a game for two seasons while Eleonora averaged 3 and 6 points. They went in different directions due to the level of interest of other teams after those two seasons. Matilde was signed by the one of the top teams and has gotten better at playing under control. Eleonora stayed with her club after they did not have enough money to stay in the top division and had an excellent season in Italy's second division before heading to Washington State. I am not sure if any teams would actually want her to show up this season, especially likely being very late to camp, and I think that Italy might be playing in a tournament in August that FIBA has not quite described in full. Unless she really gets to elite European status soon, the WNBA salaries after the next CBA will probably be more enticing for internationals, especially if the prioritization rules around national team play change.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2024 23:57:13 GMT -5
i am hoping Matilde Villa shows interest in coming Stateside at some point, considering her twin sister Elly who’s already here has been a big presence for Wazzu the whole season but especially in CLW’s absence. idk if one sister was ever considered better than the other, but so long as they’re at least comparable, Matilde might even be ready to make a splash in America by the summer after this coming one. that they both went in two different basketball-related directions as it relates to their respective career paths feels like it’s part of some grand science experiment. it’s so interesting to me now, let alone looking back on it once we see how things will have shaped up maybe as early as a mere 3-5 years from now. I hope so too as she has always been fun to watch. Matilde has always been considered better, in large part due to being the more natural point guard given that both are more point guard height. Matilde was in the rotation at their club a full season sooner and was averaging 15 points a game for two seasons while Eleonora averaged 3 and 6 points. They went in different directions due to the level of interest of other teams after those two seasons. Matilde was signed by the one of the top teams and has gotten better at playing under control. Eleonora stayed with her club after they did not have enough money to stay in the top division and had an excellent season in Italy's second division before heading to Washington State. I am not sure if any teams would actually want her to show up this season, especially likely being very late to camp, and I think that Italy might be playing in a tournament in August that FIBA has not quite described in full. Unless she really gets to elite European status soon, the WNBA salaries after the next CBA will probably be more enticing for internationals, especially if the prioritization rules around national team play change. oh yeah no, i don't envision her showing up this season anyway. too much going on in the Olympic or World Cup years. it would be interesting to see if putting in more international-friendly prioritization rules in the next CBA actually gets them to come over every year. i can't really imagine what any such future policy would look like at this time.
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Post by clayk on Mar 6, 2024 10:45:37 GMT -5
Until the WNBA raises its salary level to compete on even terms with the Euros, I just don't see a horde of difference-makers coming over, given national team commitments.
And quality of the product does not seem to be a driving force in the WNBA, as expansion isn't driven by available talent, but rather by available owners. If the Euros don't come, it doesn't change much about the basic structure of the league. Sure, it would be nice if Emma Meesemann played in the W every year, but two things: 1) How many Euros are as good as she is; and 2) does her absence impact the league's popularity or profitability?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2024 11:21:08 GMT -5
it still bothers me that enough teams are willing to let international players treat their own team like a college experiment, a brief affair. because yes, it’s not like most of them are so talented such that they can come onto a team and start/have an immediate impact. it’s also not like other nationalities of overseas players (Australians, Brazilians, Canadians, etc.) on the same level aren’t out there to sign.
i can’t think of one modern European or Asian player who didn’t graduate from an American college and who has shown up every season since the player’s first season in the league.
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Post by WBBDaily on Mar 7, 2024 12:56:19 GMT -5
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Post by toad455 on Mar 7, 2024 14:27:16 GMT -5
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Post by tpd on Mar 7, 2024 15:51:08 GMT -5
Here's a link to yet another Mock Draft, which was put out by Hunter Cruse, the person who covers the Draft over at the Next:
His draft postdates TeHina Paopao's decision to return to school, and unfortunately for the Lynx, has Edwards being selected at the 6 spot, with Minnesota deciding on the diminutive PG from Virginia Tech, Georgia Amoore. Reese then goes to Chicago, with Dallas using their anticipated deferral pick, not on an international player, but on the injured Charlisse Leger-Walker. I thought that it was interesting, and L.A. should be very happy if things pan out like this, since he also has Chicago taking Rickea Jackson with the 3rd pick and the Sparks making off with both Brink and Cardoso.
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Post by toad455 on Mar 7, 2024 16:58:50 GMT -5
Here's a link to yet another Mock Draft, which was put out by Hunter Cruse, the person who covers the Draft over at the Next: His draft postdates TeHina Paopao's decision to return to school, and unfortunately for the Lynx, has Edwards being selected at the 6 spot, with Minnesota deciding on the diminutive PG from Virginia Tech, Georgia Amoore. Reese then goes to Chicago, with Dallas using their anticipated deferral pick, not on an international player, but on the injured Charlisse Leger-Walker. I thought that it was interesting, and L.A. should be very happy if things pan out like this, since he also has Chicago taking Rickea Jackson with the 3rd pick and the Sparks making off with both Brink and Cardoso. The Next doesn't do Mock drafts but a draft board. They won't do a mock draft but it's more or less a ranking system.
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Post by tpd on Mar 7, 2024 19:35:14 GMT -5
Hi, Toad. This one is definitely NOT a ranking of WNBA Draft prospects, but an actual Mock Draft. It represents, not a rating of the prospects, but Cruse's best guess about where prospects actually will be drafted, based on a consideration of team needs and of conversations that he has had with team personnel. For example, while Lacan is ranked as a top 5 prospect on the Next's Big Board, Cruse, in this recent Mock Draft, has her going to New York toward the end of the first round. Play the video and you will see what I mean.
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Post by toad455 on Mar 7, 2024 20:25:29 GMT -5
Hi, Toad. This one is definitely NOT a ranking of WNBA Draft prospects, but an actual Mock Draft. It represents, not a rating of the prospects, but Cruse's best guess about where prospects actually will be drafted, based on a consideration of team needs and of conversations that he has had with team personnel. For example, while Lacan is ranked as a top 5 prospect on the Next's Big Board, Cruse, in this recent Mock Draft, has her going to New York toward the end of the first round. Play the video and you will see what I mean. Nah, I'm not a fan of the material The Next puts out in general.
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Post by clayk on Mar 8, 2024 10:30:53 GMT -5
I'm obviously missing something. Granted, I've only seen a little of Rickea Jackson on TV, but she doesn't jump off the screen as an elite athlete -- though Dawn Staley says she is.
Her career three-point shooting percentage is 30.3, and her last two years it's been around 31. That tells me Jackson will not be a three in the WNBA unless she's paired with a frontcourt player who can make threes.
In her career, she has 188 assists and 318 turnovers. Those numbers are 44 and 61 this year. This tells me she's not a good passer, which usually means bad decisions.
So that explains why her usage rate is so high -- when the ball gets to her, the offense ends, one way or another. Which tells me she might have trouble adjusting, or fitting in an offense, when she's the third or fourth best player on the floor.
I heard somewhere she leads the SEC in charges taken, which is impressive, and maybe she's an excellent defender -- but people have said she needs to work on her defense too.
But why would you take a player who can't spread the floor and turns the ball over a lot over a 6-7 post who runs the floor well and has a natural position in the WNBA that fits her skills?
I don't get it, but I'm willing to be enlightened.
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Post by tpd on Mar 8, 2024 13:51:43 GMT -5
Hi, Clay. Personally, I would also take Cardoso over Jackson. Heck, I'd take both Aaliyah Edwards and Jacy Sheldon over Jackson. In the video that I posted, Hunter Cruse specifically says that he does not think that Rickea Jackson is the player whom he would select at 3 if he were picking for Chicago. Still, from what he's heard, he thinks that Chicago will probably go with Rickea. I guess we will find out very soon if he's reading the situation correctly--if he is, it's a gift for L.A.
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