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Post by clayk on Feb 22, 2024 15:58:55 GMT -5
Jackson, as I've said before, does not pencil out as a No. 3 overall pick unless she's an elite defender. A wing who doesn't shoot threes well and turns the ball over more than she assists does not seem to me to be a lottery pick unless there's something else special.
And ahead of Cardoso? I just don't get it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 16:35:30 GMT -5
i agree that Cardoso should be #3 overall, but apparently Voepel favored positional need ahead of BPA when doing Chicago. as it stands now, Chicago would need a combo F more than a C… but they really ought to take the BPA and figure the rest out later, especially if that in fact turns out to be Cardoso.
i wonder if the Sparks would prefer to take a combo of Brink & Cardoso or a combo of Brink & RJackson. i actually think the latter combo could be more dynamic for them.
still can’t tell if at the next level Brink is more of a 5 or a 4, as well as if Jackson is more of a 4 or a 3.
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Post by clayk on Feb 22, 2024 17:49:28 GMT -5
If Jackson can handle the physicality of the 4 in the W, she should be fine. Just don't know if she's big enough or strong enough.
I think Brink can play the four or the five. Her versatility makes her really valuable, because she can handle the pick-and-roll switch a lot better than most bigs.
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Post by toad455 on Feb 22, 2024 17:50:54 GMT -5
The Sparks post rotation is currently Hamby, Stevens, Billings and Virag Kiss. If Chicago takes Jackson at #3, then they should look to take Cardoso at #4. I'm not high on Rickea Jackson at all, but people are penciling her in the lotto now ever since Bueckers decided to return to UCONN. There's also no solid wings in this draft after Jackson. So Chicago or LA gets tasked with taking someone like Sheldon, Edwards, or someone out of nowhere as the fourth lotto pick.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 18:10:38 GMT -5
i can’t see Sheldon dropping to #10 overall. Dallas and Minnesota if not others could each use a backup SG, of which she is the best one available imo (unless Izzy Borlase wants to make herself available this year). that’s also why i don’t see the Lynx doing a deferral pick at 7, since their plan is probably not to have to pick that “high” moving forward.
i can see Jackson adjusting well to the SF position if she has the quickness to keep up with guarding smaller players. people say she needs work defensively, but maybe it’s because she’s been playing at the 4 at the college level against as big/bigger players. i haven’t seen all that much of her, but perhaps she’s just not physically meant to defend posts? not to mention, with how many good PFs there are in the league, idk if on offense she’ll be able to just whiz past them and get to the cup as much as she does now.
where Jackson goes could highly depend on if either Edwards or Reese – if not both – make themselves available. they may all be built different, but they’re all sort of within that same vein of forward.
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Post by toad455 on Feb 22, 2024 18:31:22 GMT -5
I believe Borlase intends to come over this year. Puoch is not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 18:37:36 GMT -5
The Sparks post rotation is currently Hamby, Stevens, Billings and Virag Kiss. do we know if Li Yueru is planning on showing up?
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Post by bluedevilsdsufan5 on Feb 22, 2024 19:55:46 GMT -5
1. Indiana- Caitlin Clark….no way it’s anyone but her 2. LA- Cameron Brink….need their next star post, slots in well with Hamby or Stevens 3. Chicago- Kamilla Cardoso….BPA, good block for Spoon to build with 4. LA- Rickea Jackson….talented scoring forward/wing, I think they are ‘set’ at PG so it’s backup wing imo 5. Dallas- Jacy Sheldon….defensive guard who can hit the 3, this would make LLS backup 3 6. Washington- Te-hina PaoPao….they love shooters, and need a backup point (compete with Vanloo to start) 7. Minnesota- Aaliyah Edwards….could also go with a backup guard here but she’s BPA? 8. Chicago- Angel Reese….again BPA? Don’t love the fit with Cardoso, but that’s quite the front court rebounding wise and defensive length! Ideally develops an outside shot 9. Dallas- Nyadiew Puoch….deferral pick 10. Connecticut- Alissa Pili….theyre pretty deep, take a swing on an offensive college beast- maybe she can learn from Bri Jones how to use the body defensively 11. New York- Ayoka Lee….they could use a ready to go center, those to me are Lee and Kitley 12. Atlanta- Elizabeth Kitley….need a backup center too, as well as backup point so maybe Amoore or Osborne if they see her as a lead
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Post by toad455 on Feb 22, 2024 20:26:22 GMT -5
The Sparks post rotation is currently Hamby, Stevens, Billings and Virag Kiss. do we know if Li Yueru is planning on showing up? I've heard no Chinese players are planning on showing up in the WNBA this year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 22:38:41 GMT -5
do we know if Li Yueru is planning on showing up? I've heard no Chinese players are planning on showing up in the WNBA this year. y’mean all three of them? 🙃 oh darn.so many international players treat the W like a hop-on, hop-off tour bus. 🚎 although the teams let 'em! in spite of this, i don’t really know why it still bothers me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 23:50:49 GMT -5
since Washington is openly not contending this year, i wonder if they'll be content to just pick the BPA or thereabouts with their #6, or if they'll be able to move up.
thinking about LA, sure they probably want to keep the #4 pick... unless they want to dump off the player they acquired just to get that pick. with the Mystics' vast amount of cap space, i could see LA trading the #4 + Nurse for the #6 + a 3RP or the rights to Li Meng or something. (obviously the Thibault's would have to really be targeting someone they really want whom they think wouldn't be there at 6.)
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Post by clayk on Feb 23, 2024 10:58:55 GMT -5
since Washington is openly not contending this year, i wonder if they'll be content to just pick the BPA or thereabouts with their #6, or if they'll be able to move up. thinking about LA, sure they probably want to keep the #4 pick... unless they want to dump off the player they acquired just to get that pick. with the Mystics' vast amount of cap space, i could see LA trading the #4 + Nurse for the #6 + a 3RP or the rights to Li Meng or something. (obviously the Thibault's would have to really be targeting someone they really want whom they think wouldn't be there at 6.) The number four pick has roughly the same value as the six, so really the question for that deal is whether the Mystics think Nurse can contribute. And along that line, only title contenders with a top three pick should do anything but pick the BPA. History pretty clearly shows that there are at most three college/international players ready to step in and make a difference in their rookie season. There was a story on Haley Jones somewhere and she talked about how tough the adjustment was to the W, and how much she learned. She's a good example, I think, because it's possible she becomes a decent player in a couple years -- but as a rookie, she didn't really add much.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2024 12:33:33 GMT -5
The number four pick has roughly the same value as the six now that’s something i almost want to agree on but can’t yet because we don’t know who exactly will be available. and like i said, if the Thibault’s are eyeing someone specific anyway that they value higher than the average franchise, that changes the dynamic completely – and they’d be the types to do so, as we know, precisely why i mention the possibility.
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Post by clayk on Feb 23, 2024 13:36:04 GMT -5
Recent No. 4 picks
2023: Stephanie Soares 2022: Emily Engstler 2021: Kyrse Gondrezick 2020: Chennedy Carter 2019: Katie Lou Samuelson
Recent No. 6 picks
2023: Haley Jones 2022: Lexie Hull 2021: Micheala Onyenwere 2020: Mikiah Herbert Harrigan 2019: Napheesa Collier (ding ding ding)
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Post by CaitlinClark on Feb 23, 2024 13:46:13 GMT -5
Rickea Jackson isn't a lotto pick.
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Post by toad455 on Feb 23, 2024 14:27:58 GMT -5
Recent No. 4 picks 2023: Stephanie Soares 2022: Emily Engstler 2021: Kyrse Gondrezick 2020: Chennedy Carter 2019: Katie Lou Samuelson Recent No. 6 picks 2023: Haley Jones 2022: Lexie Hull 2021: Micheala Onyenwere 2020: Mikiah Herbert Harrigan 2019: Napheesa Collier (ding ding ding) The #4 picks have really been disappointing. Slight edge to the #6 picks. Collier > Samuelson, Onyenwere > Engstler, Hull > Gondrezick. Jury is still out on Soares and Jones. Chennedy Carter is the wildcard in this group.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2024 15:28:04 GMT -5
i get it, but it really can all be pretty random. it all also depends on the teams picking and whether or not they themselves have a good history drafting. #4s all-time: #6s all-time:
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Post by clayk on Feb 23, 2024 16:33:52 GMT -5
The reason I focus on recent drafts is that the landscape, as you point out, is constantly changing.
And of course, there are fewer elite athletes for the WNBA to choose from as more and more opt for soccer and volleyball.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2024 17:55:43 GMT -5
Rickea Jackson isn't a lotto pick. omg drag her, 'Caitlin' LMAO
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Post by toad455 on Feb 24, 2024 17:41:23 GMT -5
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