WNBA FINALS: Aces vs. Sun

@stormeo Ok - first off, I have to admit I was just being a bit (ok maybe too) argumentative - so my bad. I just thought is a little odd that you professed to dislike dynasties who won multiple titles but didn't see that others might view the Storm in the same light. The problem of having most of the titles going to only 3 or 4 teams is not really a criticism of those teams (or their fans) - they should really want to win all time. Everybody wants their team to be UMMC-WNBA. It is more of a criticism of the teams that have never succeeded at that level due to a lack of something (and I don't know for sure what it is - it could just be luck, incompetent management, or even thier fans are at fault.) It also is a criticism of the league in that it has created a draft system that completely fails to equitably distribute new talent and has never held franchises accountable for putting an inferior product on the floor.

No biggie! You were just defending your position as I was defending mine. Just some good conversation & discourse from my vantage point. 😊



Again, I think it goes back to how people define Sports Dynasties, but also perhaps the context with which these perceived dynasties take place within the League that they're in. Almost all the other men's sports leagues in this country have decades of history to where what may have once been viewed as a dynasty no longer is in present-day as more relevant situations happen.

As it relates to this League, I've pretty much said my peace on why I don't think the Storm ever entered a proper dynasty, and why I feel dynasties may be particularly bad for a League like this – though that is pure opinion/a fear of mine that may not be all that rational. Everything pretty much hinges on owners' whims, whether or not they've had success in the past (as the Comets, Monarchs, and old Detroit Shock can attest to). And one thing that I haven't mentioned: Dynasty teams don't singlehandedly keep individual teams squarely at the bottom of the standings as perennial cellar-dwellers. The Lynx's dynasty didn't directly cause Tulsa to be so bad that the owners felt that they had to move the team to Dallas, for example.



And this is another example of how views of dynasties really can vary. Obviously I considered the Lynx's title runs as a dynasty, but perhaps this ought to be an open question as well. I'd now like to hear Lynx fans' ideas on whether or not the Lynx had a dynasty. @snowman2 lynxmania hoopsmom (if you consider yourself to be a Lynx fan)



Completely agree, as I begun contemplating above.

stormeo wrote:

The lottery made the Lynx a dynasty, and probably consigned the Shock to complete failure.  Had the Shock gotten Maya Moore they might have had chance at being decent team, particularly 2012 and after once Richardson was replaced by Kloppenberg.  Instead, Moore was a catalyst that accompanied the Lynx rise to the top and kept them there even though a few other players came and went. The team being completely mismanaged in addition to unlucky was the recipe for failure in Tulsa, not the success of the Lynx. However, I think the move to Dallas was just correcting the mistake of moving to Tulsa, where it seems unlikely a WNBA would ever prosper.   As we've discussed before there is not much evidence a WNBA can ever prosper anywhere in the South or other red states, no matter what the host community is like.   Lots of franchises have failed and jury is still out on the ones remaining (Indiana, Dallas and Atlanta).  

Tight game so far.

Miller getting desperate, it seems. Good luck, Clouden

Chicago's backcourt was invisible and not very good IMO. Vegas really doesn't have that problem with Chelsea Gray and whoever else wants to play.